In this episode, Founder & CEO of Jumpwire Media Gavin McGarry, and publisher of The Illusion Of More and consultant to the Copyright Alliance David Newhoff agree to disagree on geoblocking, ISPs' liability for their infringing customers, the use of search engines to regulate piracy - and the biggest problems facing digital creators today. Jamie, meanwhile, suggests that President Trump might want to round up pirates, and floats the idea of a Bad Search engine returning the search results no one else wants.